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Jeff: Welcome to the Prophecy Pros Podcast season three. We are so excited to be with you guys again. Im Jeff Kinley, along with my co-host and compadre here, Todd Hampson. And were excited today, were going to talk about COVID vaccines and the end times. All right, Todd, so theres a lot of white noise out there right now about all these vaccines that are coming out and theres dozens of vaccines really across the world, theyre coming out to supposedly inoculate people against the COVID vaccine. And theres a lot of confusion, a lot of divisiveness on this issue, especially in the Christian community. So we want to begin by talking about that and just a quick little anecdote, we have just experienced a move in our ministry in our family, and we moved back to Little Rock, Arkansas. And so were settling in, getting to know our new neighbors. And so a couple came over to a great us to the neighborhood and found out we were Christians and we began to talk.

And one of the first things that came out of this wonderful womans mouth, she just said, “You know what? I believe the vaccine is the mark of the beast.” And its not the first time Ive heard that. Thats not the first time someones emailed me or messaged me or what do you think and all this stuff, and so we want to address that today. Talk about these vaccines. Lets talk about what they are a little bit. How they sort of impact us as Christians. And then talk about, does this relate truly to the mark of the beast and or the end times?

Todd: I would say the past… well, since the vaccine started being released and frontline workers are taking it and that sort of thing, I think Israel has a plan where every citizen is going to be vaccinated by April or somewhere around that timeframe. So its on everybodys mind. The questions Im getting the most lately are regarding this vaccine. Should we take it? Is it the mark of the beast? My daughter had a great conversation with her, a friend of hers was really fearful that it was indeed the mark of the beast.

This is where Bible prophecy and Bible study benefits you, I was able to tell her, well, no, I mean, it could be setting the stage for it. Yes, a lot of the technology lines up with what it could be, but that does not take place till the three and a half year mark in the tribulation period and we get raptured before all of that. So thats not something we have to worry about and well unpack that with scripture and stuff here in a minute. But the other question is the bigger question, now Im getting from people is, should I take it because A, it required the use of aborted baby cells. And I get that. And also the way it was rushed and it that it uses the RNA vaccine techniques. So thats something new. So theres all these legitimate questions that people have.

And then to confuse matters more, just to be honest, within the prophecy community, the eschatology experts, you have differing opinions. Some saying, “Theres no way Ill ever take this.” Others saying, “Its safe. Hey, I have Christian doctors telling me its completely safe.” And there are one or two, at least I think that dont involve the use of aborted babies. And I totally get that. We need to stand for life in every way. We dont need to benefit from the loss of an aborted baby. God sees that as something he does not like. But anyway, so thats the main question Im getting right now in real time. And like with every other topic were going over, its almost like you dont know where to turn. You dont know what the right answer is. So we really need to study this and look at what scripture says about it.

Jeff: Its kind of like, who can you trust on this whole vaccine issue? There are certain vaccines that have been known to have used aborted parts of babies involved in their testings and their trials. Others use monkeys and that type of thing. But the bottom line is you obviously dont want to be a part of that. So it requires a little bit of research. But backing up just a little bit here, Todd, concerning technology, because the medical field here is using this vaccine thing, but you came across some other research about just how technology is rapidly advancing that does or could relate to the mark of the beast and has some sort of connection to how vaccines are administered. Talk about that for a moment.

Todd: We try to be Bereans, so to speak, and do our research and make sure were researching these things before we talk to you guys, because we want to give good information. And to be honest, well be real when we dont know. And well be real when we do know, and here are some things I found. Theres a thing called a Quantum Dot tattoo, it is real. Its a small set of needles that goes into the hand or the skin. And those needles stay embedded in the skin. And thats where the vaccine is, and it dissolves into your skin and inoculates, but it also has, oddly enough, a chemical in it called luciferase that lights up, and Im not sure I need to do a little more study, I dont know if it lights up just in regular light, I think you have to have some kind of special scanner or something, but could you imagine theres a thing out right now where you can get a vaccine where they can scan your forehead or your hand, and it literally lights up to let them know if youve had the vaccine.

Georgia Tech released an online YouTube video about this little teeny patch, its called a self administer patch, where people can give themselves vaccines using this Quantum Dot technique. And then theres even another thing a lot of listeners have probably heard of the Internet of Things, where the times come in where every product… everything is going to be connected to a database and the internet theoretically, so that companies can know what products are selling, where it is in transit, all that kind of stuff. But literally everythings going to be connected. And theres thing I researched and vetted and its on like major technology websites, mainstream technology websites, theres a thing coming called the Internet of Bodies. Where youre either using wearable products or pills you swallow or vaccines that you can take that do have some kind of component that will communicate information to a database about your health or your heartbeat or whatever it is.

And then of course the RNA thing, from the research Ive done, a lot of people are saying the vaccine will change your DNA. In Revelation, when they take the mark of the beast, it doesnt say itll change your DNA, but we do know for sure it says that those people are non redeemable. Theres no way they can be saved after they take the mark. And later on down the line, all of those people have terrible sores all over their body. So it seems like something medical goes wrong or something connected with the mark, but it doesnt say that explicitly.

So we need to be careful to point that out. But from what Ive read, the RNA communicates outward from the cell. It doesnt impact DNA. Im not a medical expert at all. This is just from the research that Ive seen. So from what it looks like, it cant change your DNA, but it is new technology that has never been used before in vaccines. And then you have strange people like Bill Gates, pushing it like crazy, why are we listening to a computer expert about world vaccines, right? And thats a rabbit hole you can go down. Theres a lot of research you can do that suggests hes done some shady things. And of course hes connected to globalism and all that.

But anyway, not to go too deep, especially if we have listeners that arent familiar with eschatology and prophecy and all that, but all that to say, weve done some research. We dont know the answer. Its probably going to come down to your personal choice. Frontline workers in medical areas are already kind of being forced to take it. Theres several countries, I think France and Russia announced this week that… or maybe its Spain and Russia, I cant remember, that theyre going to require people who are flying there to have a passport of sorts. So theres a lot going on and were trying to figure it out just like you guys are.

Jeff: I think thats part of where the concern is, Todd, is that not only technologically for the first time in ever are people able to take this kind of vaccine in different ways, but also as you mentioned, travel restrictions. I mean, many people do international commerce. You cant do all international commerce digitally. But even just traveling for leisure, many countries are going to require you to have the vaccine before you enter their country. People cant go back to work. Theyre not going to be able to go back to work, many of them, unless they have the vaccine. And that certainly lines up with scripture, you cant buy or sell and you cant work, you cant buy or sell, right. But also I think one of the other things thats making this kind of spike in peoples minds as Christians is that because its so global. And of course we know thats a part of the mark of the beast that, its an essence being forced, quote, unquote upon people on the heels of great deception. I heard one prophecy expert, so to speak, on a Christian-

Todd: He just did air quotes.

Jeff: Yes. I did do air quotes here, there you go. [inaudible] to the sky. But just did this TV program where someone said, “Yeah, weve heard its possible that the antichrist could take Satans blood and mix it in the vaccine and disseminate that to the world. And thats how you take the mark of the beast.” And I said to myself, how in the world are they going to find Satans blood? How does that even happen? Because hes not a physical being, but anyway, spiritual being. But all that to say is theres wild theories about the vaccine, but lets talk about what scripture actually says. In revelation chapter 13, and of course the timing of this, Todd, as you set this up is that were three and a half years into the tribulation period.

So we are post rapture in our view of eschatology, the end times. Were post rapture, we are three and a half years into it. At this point, there is a second member of the Unholy Trinity, Satan, the antichrist and the false prophet. And hes the one that gives breath to the life of this image of the beast, thats going to be shown to the whole world. And in chapter 13, revelation, verse 16 says, “And he causes all, the small and the great and the rich and the poor and the free man and the slaves.” That pretty much covers everybody on earth, right there. Okay. It says, “To be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead. And he provides that no one should be able to buy or to sell except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Hey, this is Jeff Kinley. Im so excited to tell you about a special event thats going to take place. Todd Hampson and I are hosting as the Prophecy Pros. Its going to be the Ozark Mountain Prophecy Summit. Its going to be held in Branson, Missouri, April 15th through the 18th. And it features some of the leading voices in Bible prophecy today as our speakers. Myself, along with Todd Hampson, Dr. Dave Reagan, which by the way, is going to be one of his last appearances to ever speak at our conference. Our pastor Billy Crones from Las Vegas will be there. Also Gary Stearman whos the host of Prophecy Watchers, going to be there. All five speakers are coming together for a few days of incredible time of Bible study, Bible prophecy and also some really cool events.

Its going to be unlike any other prophecy conference youve ever attended. Go to ozarkmountainprophecysummit.com, sign up today or ask for more information. Wed love to see you there and to meet you personally. Youre going to get a chance to hang out with the speakers, ask them questions. And again, its going to be unlike anything youve ever experienced before.

Heres a couple of observations we can make. This is good Bible study methods right here, okay. Just to observe, number one is that this mark is going to be on one of two places, on the right hand or on the forehead. And John is very specific in the language that he chose there, its the word [foreign language] is the word on, it just literally means on the surface. Theres no opportunity here for this mark to be something that is necessarily in the body, but its on the hand, its an identifiable mark, more so than something thats going to be in the bloodstream. So the second thing is that the word mark itself is a Greek word [foreign language], which was used in the first century to describe everything from the image on a coin that is stamped or an actual tattoo. And many times soldiers would have a tattoo of an emblem or something representing a commanding officer and just showing their allegiance to that commanding officer.

So the mark of the beast is something that, number one, comes halfway into the tribulation period. But secondly, its an actual mark that signifies a person. Its not a medical thing at all. Its something that signifies a person and it tells the world that you have a loyalty and allegiance. In fact, a worshipful allegiance to this person called antichrist. From that alone, we can confidently say that the vaccine is definitely not the mark of the beast. So theres no fear involved in that. Now there may be some other concerns we can address, but in terms of it being the mark of the beast… and if the vaccine is the mark of the beast, the bad news is youre halfway into the tribulation period right now.

And this is not good. We know that hasnt happened because the things that the Bible says happened in the first part of the tribulation have not happened in the world. So again, scripture becomes our compass. Its our true North. It guides us. And look how much clarity the scripture gives us on an issue like this. So whenever people say this, just know that they either have not done their research in scripture or theyre unaware of what scripture says or whatever or theyre just propagating false information. So definitely the vaccine is not the mark of the beast.

Todd: Yes. We can say that conclusively. So you can put that to rest for sure. And even after the mark is given in Revelation 13 and revelation 14, we have the 144,000, and apparently branding is a big thing in the tribulation because the 144,000 are sealed or branded. So whats behind a brand even if you think of brand marks in graphic design, it represents the bigger picture. It represents the organization that that brand is from. So youre right. When people take the mark, theyre going to know what theyre doing. Its not just a medical thing. They are saying Im aligning with the anti-Christ. [crosstalk]

Jeff: Its not going to be a deceptive thing in the sense that, you take the vaccine and six months later, Oh, by the way, you just pledged alligation to Satan.

Todd: Exactly.

Jeff: Its not that at all. Obviously there could be other medical concerns, other moral concerns that that people would have. And we both have talked about this is that you need to really do the research on what kind of vaccine that you take. I mean, you would do that if you were for a political candidate, youd want to know what the issues were and that kind of thing, do the same thing. Were not someone heres going to tell you what to do or which vaccine to take, if youre going to take one, but you do need to do the research and to figure that out for yourself.

So you can make a wise and informed decision. But I think part of this discussion, Todd, and again, this really alleviates kind of not just the fear, but the phobic type of fear that people have about, am I going to take the mark of the beast? So the scripture does give us clarity on that. But I think one of the good things that have come out of this is that Christians that have never really thought about Revelation, they really thought about the end times are beginning to connect dots, even if theyre not dots that should be connected. Theyre beginning to think, “Wow, this sounds like end time stuff.” And this is one of the reasons why you and I write the books that we do. I mean, you talked about the Quick Reference Guide to the End Times that you can buy an Amazon.

But my book Interview with the Antichrist, really its a fiction novel, but it chronicles this whole thing and concludes with 30 questions about the antichrist at the end. Your books the Non-Prophets Guide to Revelation, Non-Prophets Guide to the End Times, these all address these things. And heres the principle, kind of the overarching general principle here, is that when we bathe our minds and scripture, some of this discernment comes natural to us. We dont have to go through this period of confusion, this period of concern, even a period of fear, we automatically know, no Gods already said this, so I know this is not true.

And so now all I need is the wisdom to know how to walk through some of these things. But I do think its very interesting that Christians are beginning to connect whats happening now to the end times, to the book of Revelation. And that in a sense, I think, is by Gods design as well. Because he wants to wake the bride. He wants our spiritual eyes to be dilated to whats happening around us. And then to really connect, if possible, the scripture to those type of things.

Todd: Its so true. And like you said, that is exactly why we write the books we write, because it is more than you can unpack in a quick… I mean, thankfully we have this venue to be able to share and just kind of set some fears aside, but it is more important now than ever for people to study scripture. in the Non-Prophets Guide to the End Times, I talk about how to interpret Bible prophecy. And then in the Non-Prophets Guide to Revelation, its a chronological walk through the book of Revelation. So that forced me to do really in-depth study to where… youre right, a lot of the stuff that you hear being floated out there immediately, you can just write it off, because Ive already studied this in scripture and scripture is very clear. And as we mentioned in the last episode, now more than ever, because there are so many competing voices, so much deception, so much confusion, so much fear, now more than ever, we need to let scripture and scripture alone guide us because its more accurate than the news.

Its more accurate than anything else. And Jeff, I was going to say one more thing, I love your… I think I shared with you last year, riding back from NRB, I listened to your Interview with Antichrist, on Audiobook to kill time. And I was just riveted that my six hour trip seemed like it went by in an hour. So if people are more like a narrative kind of thing, your book is phenomenal and it really does unpack scripture exactly like the Bible. I mean, you fill in some gaps and use some creative license, but like you said, at the end, theres a whole series of questions and all the references. So if people like that kind of either audio books or just more narrative story-driven stuff that is a phenomenal resource.

Jeff: Well, Im just glad I didnt put you to sleep because you were driving.

Todd: Naah. Kept me awake.

Jeff: Well, heres what we know for sure. This whole vaccine thing is not going away. Its not going to just fade into the sunset. All of a sudden, were not going to have, administration is going to say, “You know what? We were thinking about vaccines, but what the heck. Everybody just go back to what youre doing.” So its going to continue to confront us. So for Christians, I think number one is to do the research, do your homework on this thing, ask your doctor. And you may need to ask more than one doctor to get their take on these things, ask the kind of questions that impact you as a believer. And again, we talked about the aborted babies being used.

Maybe thats something you check into different vaccines that are using, are they being used right now, that you do the research in there and make sure that you avoid that. And then finally just weigh your options. Because I mean, right now you and I both are scheduled to travel internationally in a couple of months. And we may be forced to make a decision on this thing, whether or not to take a vaccine. And Im not saying that its evil to take a vaccine. Its just that we just need to not blindly accept everything thats being put in our lap, but to walk forward with wisdom and wisdom gives us confidence, Todd. As we do that kind of research, we can make that kind of impact in the world.

And so COVID vaccines, end times, yes, these are things that are heightening our awareness. That are causing us to wake up, to look around and thats a good thing, but make sure as we do that, we are getting into resources, mostly the scripture, but also other resources like books and podcasts and things like that, that are going to further confirm what the Bible says so that we can walk forward with confidence.

Todd: Yeah. So true. And we mentioned this in the last episode, as well as, now more than ever, we need to deepen our walk with the Lord, I think, and Im guilty of this, sometimes weve been so used to just having clear cut cookie cutter answers for everything that we havent had to really douse it in prayer. This is one of those issues where, think about it, different people have different choices to make. You have some believers who are frontline medical workers or coaches everywhere in our area are being… they have to take it, if theyre going to be… so different people have different approaches and everything that you just mentioned too, about research and the individual vaccines and how it was created and all that.

So all that to say, now more than ever, I think as individual believers, we need to pray and trust that God is going to show it. The Holy Spirit will guide us into righteousness to know what to do and his situation. And this like many other issues right now, there is no cookie cutter answer. So its a matter of preference and prayer and relying on the Holy Spirit and trusting that Gods going to guide each individual believer.

Jeff: Amen. And we avoid the extreme when saying all vaccines are the boogeyman, on the other side to say, “Hey, just put a needle into me, put whatever you want to in my body.” So theres wisdom. And thats the great thing, is that Christians sometimes want to be told what to do or we want to just say, “Just tell me what I should do.” Were not going to do that. Were going to give you principles so that you can make informed wise decisions. You know why? Because we trust the Holy Spirit who lives inside of you.

Todd: Amen.

Jeff: And we want you to be able to walk that path on your own using the information that God gives us in his word and also the wisdom that we use in walking culture. So, hope there has been encouragement for you and really helps not just to inform you, but to help inspire you to continue to live for Jesus Christ in a world that is marked by great confusion.

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